An interaction with Tom Jefferson raises more questions about what happened in Lombardy, spring 2020 — and why so few want to talk about it
Jessica Hockett PhD & Dr Jonathan Engler
In the interest of documenting possible sources regarding the Lombardy death spikes and Bergamo mass casualty event of spring 2020, we are preserving an interaction with Tom Jefferson in comments for “Dear US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention” (18 February 2025).
Jefferson is a Senior Associate Tutor at the University of Oxford, a former researcher at the Nordic Cochrane Centre and a former scientific coordinator for producing HTA reports on non-pharmaceuticals for Agenas, the Italian National Agency for Regional Healthcare.
Replying to another commenter regarding the “disappearance” of positive flu tests, Jefferson said,
Jessica Hockett, replying to Jefferson,1
Jefferson, replying to Hockett:
Jonathan Engler, replying to Jefferson:
Hockett, replying to Jefferson:
The dialogue ended there. We’re reminded of Nick Hudson’s aptly-titled September 2022 PANDA essay “A Covid omertà”. Referring to widespread failure on the part of media, scientific journals, and experts regarding Covid-shot efficacy, he said, “I can imagine that it must be quite difficult to acknowledge having played a role in the perpetration of the greatest fraud in history, but at some stage surely someone is going to locate a conscience and break ranks?”
Almost three years later, we believe the fraud may extend much further than Nick or anyone else expected — including to manipulated all-cause mortality curves in a few locations, at least.
In November 2022, Jefferson participated in POLI-COVID-22: Salute, Scienza e Società alla prova della pandemia, a five-day conference held in Torino, Italy, in November 2022. Sunetra Gupta, John Ioannidis, Peter Doshi also presented.
Jefferson’s talk – “Research and evidence on SARS-CoV-2 transmission and its dissemination one researcher’s experience” – can be viewed on YouTube. The presentation was delivered remotely, in Italian, with English subtitles provided.
No doubt since the above event, Tom Jefferson’s views have evolved. He, together with Carl Heneghan, has gone further than many in exposing the issues with transmission models, the futility of testing, and the corruption at the heart of the vaccine rollouts.
Yet we assert he could and should go further. We believe him when he says he knows Lombardy whistleblowers — and agree they need protection — but would urge him and anyone else who knows those or similarly-situated individuals to find ways they can come forward safely, or their testimonies and information disclosed (even anonymously, as with one New York City frontline doctor), for the benefit of preventing the “saga” from occurring again.
- 14 January 2026 note: Jessica removed the Substack account associated with her comments; therefore, her comments no longer appear on the TTE article but are preserved above. ↩︎
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